Talk:Spider-Man 2 (2023 video game)

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Hey there, I am on mobile now but I keep having my page deleted for no apparent reason. The Spider-Man 2 game which is coming out in 2023 should have its own page instead of redirecting to the game that came before it. Please stop changing it without a valid reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:b1b3:daa3:c0d8:4d47:2a6b:ff95 (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello there. This page already has a draft article at Draft:Spider-Man 2 (2023 video game), though I doubt you need to be told that seeing as you copied and pasted the page in it's entirety. The game is 2 years away, and all we have is a trailer and a few scraps to go off. If you still believe that the draft should be published here, then I suggest you submit the draft for review via the button at the top of the draft page. Mitchy Power (talk) 17:50, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Will it be on ps4 2603:8080:83F0:8D90:E157:15BE:B519:FB9 (talk) 04:36, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Moaz

Requested move 23 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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Spider-Man 2 (2023 video game) → Marvel's Spider-Man 2 – Per WP:NATURAL and also the fact that "Marvel's Spider-Man 2" seems to be the actual official name. Virtually every primary source calls it "Marvel's Spider-Man 2." HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 21:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Also, since Wikipedia:COMMONNAME applies, I did a quick perusal of secondary sources via Google News:

[1] IGN refers to it as "Marvel's Spider-Man 2".

[2] GameInformer uses "Marvel's Spider-Man 2."

[3][4] Yahoo and CNN is just "Spider-Man 2".

[5][6][7][8] Uses just "Spider-Man 2" in the title, but in the body uses "Marvel's Spider-Man 2."

[9][10][11] Again, more usage of "Marvel's Spider-Man 2."

So even if there's an argument to be made that most people or sources refer it to "Spider-Man 2," it's clear that a lot of sources have picked up using Marvel's right before it as a natural way to disambiguate it from Spider-Man 2. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 21:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I'd probably oppose this. Just because a few sources call it "Marvel's Spider-Man 2", doesn't mean that would be the WP:COMMONNAME. the 2018 video game and it's DLC, Miles Morales, and even the series itself don't even have "Marvel's" included in the title. I also did a search and found out that Eurogamer, Metro, Neowin, The O'Colly, and Destructoid refer it to as simply "Spider-Man 2". But either way, I think we should stay consistent with the names of these Spider-Man articles. DaCrashy (talk) 23:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I also want to add that the first was also discussed to be changed to a similar title but was not moved. DaCrashy (talk) 23:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I would like to argue that the proposed title change makes complete sense, as I have evidence from both first party sources and third party sources. In fact, the other articles support this. Each listed article incorrectly titles themselves simply as Spider-Man or Spider-Man (subtitle), but in the text, it refers to both games and the DLC as either Marvel's Spider-Man or Marvel's Spider-Man (subtitle). Look at the first line of each article, and the title used on the infobox:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_(2018_video_game)

Title: Spider-Man (2018 video game)

Infobox title: Marvel's Spider-Man

First line: "Marvel's Spider-Man[b] is a 2018 action-adventure game developed by Insomniac Games and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_The_City_That_Never_Sleeps

Title: Spider-Man: The City That Never Sleeps

Infobox title: Marvel's Spider-Man: The City That Never Sleeps

First line: Marvel's Spider-Man: "The City That Never Sleeps is a collection of downloadable content (DLC) developed by Insomniac Games and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment for the 2018 video game Marvel's Spider-Man."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Miles_Morales

Title: Spider-Man: Miles Morales

Infobox title: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales

First line: "Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a 2020 action-adventure game developed by Insomniac Games and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_(Insomniac_Games_series)

Title: Spider-Man (Insomniac Games series)

Infobox title: Marvel's Spider-Man

First line: "Marvel's Spider-Man is a series of action-adventure video games developed by Insomniac Games and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment for PlayStation consoles and Microsoft Windows."

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All of this shows that this site clearly already has been using the name, the title's of the articles are the outliers. More importantly, the games are officially referred to as "Marvel's Spider-Man" on both Sony's and Steam's storefront:

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https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA02299_00-MARVELSSMGOTY000

Title: Marvel's Spider-Man: Game of the Year Edition

Description Excerpt: "Experience the Game of the Year Edition of Marvel’s Spider-Man, which includes the full game, plus Marvel’s Spider-Man: The City That Never Sleeps complete DLC story arc content."

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https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-PPSA01467_00-MARVELSSPIDERMAN

Title: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered

Description Excerpt: "This unmissable bundle includes Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered – the complete award-winning game, including all three DLC chapters in the Marvel’s Spider-Man: The City That Never Sleeps adventure – remastered and enhanced for the PS5™ system."

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https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA02299_00-CTNSBUNDLE000000

Title: Marvel's Spider-Man: The City That Never Sleeps

Description Excerpt: "Marvel’s Spider-Man: The City That Never Sleeps is downloadable content for Marvel’s Spider-Man may be sold separately. Marvel’s Spider-Man required to play associated downloadable content."

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https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-PPSA01411_00-MARVELSSMMORALES

Title: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales PS4 & PS5

Description Excerpt: "In the latest adventure in the Marvel’s Spider-Man universe, teenager Miles Morales is adjusting to his new home while following in the footsteps of his mentor, Peter Parker, as a new Spider-Man."

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https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-PPSA03016_00-MARVELSPIDERMAN2

Title: Marvel’s Spider-Man 2

Description Excerpt: "Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 full game for PS5®."

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1817070/Marvels_SpiderMan_Remastered/

Title: Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered

Description Excerpt: "In Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered, the worlds of Peter Parker and Spider-Man collide in an original action-packed story."

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1817190/Marvels_SpiderMan_Miles_Morales/

Title: Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales

Description Excerpt: "After the events of Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered, teenage Miles Morales is adjusting to his new home while following in the footsteps of his mentor, Peter Parker, as a new Spider-Man."

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In other words, both first party and third party storefronts all refer to the series, the games, and the DLC as "Marvel's Spider-Man." In short, all this presented evidence should necessitate both the change of this article's title, but all five listed articles, as they are all improperly titled. 71.179.10.188 (talk) 22:29, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Still the names should stay consistent with all other Spider-Man articles. DaCrashy (talk) 02:11, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• The name of this article should be consistent with the articles for the first two games. Aside from that, I'm not sure at this time which title should be used. Jessintime (talk) 15:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose, Spider-Man 2, or Marvel's Spider-Man 2 for that matter, can refer to several things. This is unambiguous and precise. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 17:23, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppse as per WP:CONSISTENT, article should be consistent to Spider-Man (2018 video game) and Spider-Man 2 (2004 video game). TheDeviantPro (talk) 00:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. This seems to be WP:COMMONNAME. I'd suggest move both Spider-Man PS4 and the Miles game as well. OceanHok (talk) 11:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 would be an ambiguous title. Also it would be non-consistent with the previous entry in the series (and with the name of the series itself) Redjedi23 (talk) 18:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

How about "Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (2023 video game")? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:842B:836C:7B01:15E1:7971:61BF:9B40 (talk) 00:53, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. The game is called simply "Spider-Man 2". The Marvel's is something used by some sources but not others, and also wouldn't match the others in the series.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Spider-Man 2 should be categorized as action-adventure game instead of beat 'em up game.

Greetings. I want to point out about the genre accuracy of this Spider-Man 2 2023 game. I noticed that the game is categorized under beat 'em up games category. But judging to the gameplay, I think action-adventure game category is more accurate as a main genre. even it has some beat 'em up elements such as Spider-Man's battle style against the enemies NPC, it's not enough to justify it with such a categorized genre of this game. MrGamezBoy (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

We go by what reliable sources consider it to be. And again, Category:2023 action-adventure games doesn't exist. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 18:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)